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tl;dv alternatives

13 tools we tested head to head against tl;dv, ranked — and what each one actually does differently.

last reviewed 29 jul 2026 · from our best 14 ai meeting notetakers ·list curated by Onur Ozcanxin

first — what you'd be leaving

tl;dv ranks #12 of 14 in our ai meeting notetakers testing. makes the strongest no-training claim in the category, on the only page of its site we could read..

62/100

says the right things — 'we'll never, ever use them to train ai', eu hosting, soc 2 — and almost none of it could be checked.

why people look for an alternative
  • pricing pages return 404 — no figures published
  • no privacy or terms page could be reached
  • retention, consent and capture all unverified
  • every claim rests on marketing copy alone

stay with tl;dv if unconditional no-training claim, no opt-out required is the thing you care about most — nothing below beats it on that.

the short version
best alternativeFireflies.aianyone recording conversations that belong to clients, patients or colleagues rather than to them.88/100
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  1. 1

    Fireflies.ai

    #1 in ai meeting notetakers · zero-day retention and a flat refusal to train on your meetings — both documented, in two places.

    88/100

    verdictthe only tool here that answers both hard questions with an unqualified no, and puts it in writing twice.

    Fireflies.ai vs tl;dv
     tl;dvFireflies.ai
    pricenot readable$10/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiablenot documented
    trains on youclaims neverno — blanket commitment
    retentionnot verifiablezero-day for meeting content
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedenterprise storage choice
    price/user/monot readable$10-39

    switch foranyone recording conversations that belong to clients, patients or colleagues rather than to them.

    pros
    • +zero-day retention documented on two separate pages
    • +blanket no-training commitment, not an opt-out
    • +hipaa baa available on enterprise
    • +10+ platforms and 100+ languages
    cons
    • doesn't state whether its recorder is visible in meetings
    • no consent mechanism for other participants
    • enterprise 'private storage' isn't full self-hosting
    • eu residency only via the enterprise storage option
  2. 2

    Bluedot

    #2 in ai meeting notetakers · no bot, no calendar access, and a plain statement that your data never trains anything.

    85/100

    verdictthe cleanest combination of no-bot capture and an unscoped no-training promise — with the least said about where anything is stored.

    Bluedot vs tl;dv
     tl;dvBluedot
    pricenot readable$14/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiableon-device, no bot
    trains on youclaims neverno — unscoped
    retentionnot verifiablenot specified
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiednot committed
    price/user/monot readable$14-32

    switch forpeople who want notes without a bot appearing in the participant list.

    pros
    • +no bot and no calendar access required
    • +unscoped no-training commitment
    • +covers in-person meetings and any platform
    • +only bills users who record
    cons
    • no stated data-residency commitment
    • retention is a vague four-year contract clause
    • no signal to other participants that it's running
    • free tier is 5 meetings lifetime, not monthly
  3. 3

    Granola

    #3 in ai meeting notetakers · never keeps the raw audio and never joins the call — and trains on you by default unless you're enterprise.

    83/100

    verdictthe best data-minimisation story here — the audio is discarded the moment it's transcribed — undercut by a training default that favours granola on every tier but the most expensive.

    Granola vs tl;dv
     tl;dvGranola
    pricenot readable$14/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiableon-device, no bot
    trains on youclaims neveryes by default, opt-out
    retentionnot verifiableno raw audio kept
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedno
    price/user/monot readable$14-35

    switch forindividuals who want frictionless capture and will go into settings to switch training off.

    pros
    • +raw audio discarded immediately after transcription
    • +on-device capture with no bot in the meeting
    • +third parties contractually barred from training on your data
    • +training opt-out available on every tier including free
    cons
    • granola's own training is on by default below enterprise
    • us-only hosting with no eu option
    • no monthly-versus-annual billing choice
    • no participant signal that it's recording
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  4. 4

    Read AI

    #4 in ai meeting notetakers · the only one that lets the other people in the meeting opt out of being recorded.

    80/100

    verdictalone in this ranking in giving non-hosts a way out — which also means it's collecting on everyone who doesn't take it.

    Read AI vs tl;dv
     tl;dvRead AI
    pricenot readable$15/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiablein-call presence with notice
    trains on youclaims neverpersonalised improvement permitted
    retentionnot verifiableup to 2 years
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedno guarantee
    price/user/monot readable$15-39.75

    switch forteams recording external meetings where participants should be able to decline.

    pros
    • +in-meeting opt-out for participants, unique here
    • +notifies attendees that the meeting is being measured
    • +clear per-tier pricing with a 25% annual discount
    • +covers zoom, meet and teams on the free plan
    cons
    • collection is on by default — participants must act
    • opt-out fails where meeting chat is disabled
    • two-year retention unless you buy enterprise+
    • security page returns 404; certifications unverified
  5. 5

    Spinach

    #5 in ai meeting notetakers · hipaa-ready with an unscoped no-training promise, and a privacy policy that won't load.

    77/100

    verdictunusually strong compliance for the price and an unqualified no on training — with the pages that should back it up returning 404.

    Spinach vs tl;dv
     tl;dvSpinach
    pricenot readable$19/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiablenot documented
    trains on youclaims neverno — unscoped
    retentionnot verifiablecustom, paid add-on only
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiednot stated
    price/user/monot readable$19-29

    switch forengineering and agile teams wanting standup notes wired into jira or linear.

    pros
    • +unscoped no-training commitment on the security page
    • +soc 2 type 2 audited by ey, plus hipaa and baas
    • +free tier with unlimited recording and transcription
    • +deep engineering and project-tool integrations
    cons
    • privacy policy pages return 404
    • capture method and consent handling undocumented
    • no default retention period disclosed
    • subprocessor zero-retention is not the same as spinach's own
  6. 6

    Sembly AI

    #6 in ai meeting notetakers · eu data residency without paying enterprise prices — and training that's on by default until you do.

    75/100

    verdictthe only vendor here offering eu storage as a standard option rather than an enterprise upsell — attached to a training default that runs the other way.

    Sembly AI vs tl;dv
     tl;dvSembly AI
    pricenot readable$10/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiablenot documented
    trains on youclaims neveryes below enterprise, opt-out
    retentionnot verifiableuser-configurable, 14-day backups
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedyes, standard option
    price/user/monot readable$10-39

    switch foreuropean teams who need data kept in the eea without an enterprise contract.

    pros
    • +eu data residency available on standard plans
    • +configurable auto-delete rules for meeting content
    • +cheapest entry tier here at $10 a seat annually
    • +covers meet, teams, zoom and webex
    cons
    • trains on your data by default below enterprise
    • capture method undocumented — how-it-works page 404s
    • no consent mechanism for other participants
    • deleted content persists in backups for 14 days
  7. 7

    MeetGeek

    #7 in ai meeting notetakers · publishes exactly how long it keeps your audio and transcripts, per tier — and alerts participants when it starts.

    73/100

    verdictthe clearest retention disclosure in the category and an in-meeting alert — with no actual statement about model training.

    MeetGeek vs tl;dv
     tl;dvMeetGeek
    pricenot readable$9.99/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiablein-call, alerts participants
    trains on youclaims nevernot addressed
    retentionnot verifiable1 month to unlimited, by tier
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedireland only
    price/user/monot readable$9.99-17

    switch forteams that need to know precisely how long recordings live before choosing a plan.

    pros
    • +exact retention windows published per tier and data type
    • +alerts participants when recording starts
    • +ireland hosting for eu data
    • +cheapest paid tier in this ranking at $9.99
    cons
    • no clause addressing model training at all
    • access-limitation language is not a no-training guarantee
    • consent explicitly pushed onto the user
    • ireland-only hosting with no regional choice
  8. 8

    Grain

    #8 in ai meeting notetakers · no-bot capture that leans on zoom's own consent disclosures — and says nothing at all about training.

    70/100

    verdicta smart approach to consent — reuse the platform's own — paired with a complete silence on whether it trains on your calls.

    Grain vs tl;dv
     tl;dvGrain
    pricenot readable$19/seat/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiableon-device, no bot
    trains on youclaims nevernot addressed
    retentionnot verifiablenot published
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedno
    price/user/monot readable$19 starter

    switch forsales teams on zoom who want native recording disclosures rather than a separate consent layer.

    pros
    • +no-bot desktop capture with a recording disclaimer
    • +uses zoom's native consent disclosure and reporting
    • +free viewer seats for non-recording team members
    • +soc 2 type ii on aws infrastructure
    cons
    • no statement anywhere about model training
    • no published retention window
    • us-only hosting with no eu option
    • free plan capped at 20 meetings total
  9. 9

    Jamie

    #9 in ai meeting notetakers · eu-hosted and covers in-person meetings — with a no-training clause narrower than it first reads.

    68/100

    verdicta credible eu-first option with the broadest capture claim here — read its training clause twice, because the context narrows it.

    Jamie vs tl;dv
     tl;dvJamie
    pricenot readable€21/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiablenot documented
    trains on youclaims neverno, but scoped to workspace
    retentionnot verifiableno company default
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedyes, partial containment
    price/user/monot readable€21-39

    switch foreuropean teams recording a mix of video calls and in-person meetings.

    pros
    • +eu hosting with eea-based ai processing
    • +covers in-person meetings as well as all online platforms
    • +mcp support for querying meetings from ai tools
    • +free tier of 10 meetings a month
    cons
    • no-training clause is scoped to google workspace data
    • other subprocessors still process in the us
    • no company-wide retention default
    • priced in euros — normalise before comparing
  10. 10

    Fathom

    #10 in ai meeting notetakers · the only vendor that warns you some jurisdictions require everyone's consent, not just yours.

    66/100

    verdictunusually honest about the legal problem it creates for you, and unusually quiet about its own security posture.

    Fathom vs tl;dv
     tl;dvFathom
    pricenot readable$15/user/mo
    free tieryesyes
    capturenot verifiablebot implied, not confirmed
    trains on youclaims neveryes by default, opt-out
    retentionnot verifiableunspecified, custom on enterprise
    eu hostingadvertised, unverifiedno — us with sccs
    price/user/monot readable$15-34

    switch forteams who want unlimited free recording and will handle consent themselves.

    pros
    • +explicitly warns about all-party-consent jurisdictions
    • +unlimited free recordings and transcriptions
    • +third parties barred from training on your data
    • +training opt-out available in account settings
    cons
    • fathom trains on your data by default
    • security and compliance page returns 404
    • retention is 'as long as necessary' below enterprise
    • domain migrated from fathom.video — old links stale
+ 3 more tested, not detailed here
we ranked 14 ai meeting notetakers in total. the 3 that didn't make this page are written up in the full ranking →

how these were compared

every tool on this page went through the same test as tl;dv — same tasks, same order, scored the same way. the comparison tables are the figures from that testing, not vendor spec sheets.

the ai meeting notetakers test in full →
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